by Calculated Risk on 11/20/2009 08:55:00 AM

From housing consultant Ivy Zelman commenting on the MBA Delinquency report in the NY Times U.S. Mortgage Delinquencies Reach a Record High

"I’ve been pretty bearish on this big ugly pig stuck in the python and this cements my view that home prices are going back down."

From Bloomberg: Housing Recovery in U.S. Set Back to 2010 as Market Wanes

“I don’t think the housing crisis is over,” Mark Zandi, chief economist with Moody’s Economy.com, said in a telephone interview. “I think we’re going to see another leg down.”

From Goldman Sachs chief economist Jan Hatzius in a note to clients: A Renewed Sag in the Housing Market (no link)

"Our current working assumption is a 5%-10% drop in home prices through the middle of 2010. ... house prices and credit quality ... to weigh on the US financial system, the availability of bank credit, and ultimately the pace of the economic recovery."

My view is that house prices might have bottomed in some non-bubble areas, and also in some low end bubble areas with high foreclosure rates, however I expect further price decline in many mid-to-high end bubble areas.

by Calculated Risk on 11/19/2009 11:39:00 PM

David Streitfeld at the NY Times adds some color: Easy Loans in Expensive Areas

In January, Mike Rowland was so broke that he had to raid his retirement savings to move [to San Francisco] from Boston.

A week ago, he and a couple of buddies bought a two-unit apartment building for nearly a million dollars. They had only a little cash to bring to the table but, with the federal government insuring the transaction, a large down payment was not necessary.

“It was kind of crazy we could get this big a loan,” said Mr. Rowland, 27. “If a government official came out here, I would slap him a high-five.”
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For decades, most F.H.A. loans were in low-cost states like Texas and Michigan. ... The Economic Stimulus Act of 2008 helped change that by temporarily doubling the maximum loan the F.H.A. insured, to $729,750. A two-unit property like the one bought by Mr. Rowland and his friends can be insured for up to $934,200.

Hopefully this will work out for Mr. Rowland and friends, but now for the chilling quote:

Mr. Bedar, Mr. Rowland and the third partner in their property, Jordan Kurland, are all in the technology field, but their dreams of wealth do not feature stock options.

“We’re banking on real estate,” said Mr. Kurland, 24. “Everyone expects prices to keep going up.”

This will end well ... (sorry for sarcasm)

Note: The MBA National Delinquency Survey showed 15.04% of FHA insured loans were delinquent as of the end of Q3, and another 3.32% were in the foreclosure process. The FHA Early Warning System shows that delinquencies are rising steadily on loans originated over the last two years. Not good.

by Calculated Risk on 11/19/2009 09:30:00 PM

There was some buzz earlier today about short term T bill rates turning slightly negative. This happened last year too, but for different reasons ...

From the Financial Times: Short-term US interest rates turn negative

Short-term US interest rates turned negative on Thursday as banks frantically stockpiled government securities in order to polish their balance sheets for the end of the year.
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The scramble has been exacerbated by the fact that all leading US banks ... will this year close their books at the same time – at the end of December.
excerpted with permission

John Jansen at Across the Curve explains:

I do not speak to[o] often of the T bill market but yields in that market continue to collapse. In one recent conversation a market participant noted that bill yields are negative out to February. There are a couple of factors at work here. There is a massive wall of liquidity, a pile of cash which needs a home. That is driving yields lower.

Typically as the year end approaches clients tend to unwind profitable trades and reduce balance sheet. I think that some of that deleveraging process has created new piles of cash and that money needs a place to park.

Others are preparing to beautify their balance sheet by having some pristine government paper on the books over year end. Some of that trade has begun as investors purchase paper which will carry them into 2010.

And more from John: More on Negative T Bills

In my closing post I noted that T bill rates are in negative territory and gave some reasons for that. Here is an excerpt from David Ader of CRT on that same topic;

“We instead take our cue from activity in the financing markets, where year end is playing its hand – Jan bills are trading negative. The story here is not a new one as we saw bills negative at the end of the last quarter, but exacerbated by a more intense year end. We say that because 1) it’s clearly the talking point on funding desks, 2) EVERYONE has a Dec 31 year end as we have no investment banks any longer, and 3) as bank holding companies there’s a likelihood that former IBs, too, need to show cash in something other than a mattress.”

Another analyst whom I read suggested that an exacerbating factor was the maturity of some cash management bills which were not replaced.

Whatever the case, I am certain that the present circumstance is not an indicator of financial stress as plunging bill rates have been in the past.

No worries ...

by Calculated Risk on 11/19/2009 06:45:00 PM

Here is a scatter graph comparing the seriously delinquency rate for mortgage loans vs. unemployment rate for all states. The seriously delinquent rate include 90+ days delinquent loans, and loans in the foreclosure process for Q3 2009 (Source: MBA).

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There is a relationship between delinquency rates and the unemployment rate.

Florida really stands out because of state specific foreclosure laws. Arizona and Nevada also have higher than expected foreclosure rates - possibly because of high investor activity during the housing bubble.

As the unemployment rate continues to rise, the mortgage delinquency rate will increase too.

For more on the MBA National Delinquency Survey, see:

From the MBA: Delinquencies Continue to Climb in Latest MBA National Delinquency Survey

MBA Forecasts Foreclosures to Peak in 2011

Mortgage Delinquencies and Foreclosures by Period Past Due

by Calculated Risk on 11/19/2009 03:49:00 PM

Click on graph for larger image in new window.

First, on the market ...

This graph is from Doug Short of dshort.com (financial planner): "Four Bad Bears".

Note that the Great Depression crash is based on the DOW; the three others are for the S&P 500.

Reader Yuri asked me if the number of 30 day delinquencies is decreasing. He was curious if the overall number of delinquencies is increasing because of the loan modifications and other actions that are limiting the outflow - but that that overall increase might be masking some improvement for the inflow of new delinquencies.

This graph shows the delinquencies by time period (30, 60, 90 day, and in foreclosure) for all loans.\

The percentage of 30 and 60 day delinquencies have decreased slightly. However the rates are still near record levels.

For the 30 day bucket, there were 3.57% percent delinquent - not much lower than the high in Q1 of 3.77%. For 60 days, the rate was 1.67% - also below the high in Q1.

Clearly most of the increase was in the 90 day and in foreclosure buckets. And that is why the modification programs are so important.

The second graph provides the same data for prime fixed rate mortgages. Both the 30 and 60 day buckets are still at record levels, although the rate of increase has slowed.

Since prime fixed rate mortgages account for about 2/3s of the mortgage market, a large portion of future foreclosures will probably be from these loans.