by Calculated Risk on 3/01/2009 07:50:00 PM

Just an open thread (I'm working on fixing the comments):

For those interested, here are few sources for futures and the foreign markets.

Bloomberg Futures.

CBOT mini-sized Dow

CME Globex Flash Quotes

Futures from barchart.com

And the Asian markets.

Right now the futures are off a little for the U.S. markets. It appears DOW 7000 is in jeopardy.

Best to all.

by Calculated Risk on 3/01/2009 03:15:00 PM

As we discussed yesterday, AIG will not be alone in the confessional tomorrow. HSBC is about to announce a £17bn hit on bad loans.

Now the Financial Times reports: HSBC to scale back US lending

HSBC will on Monday announce plans to scale back its US consumer finance operations as the bank launches a £12bn-plus ($17bn) rights issue ... HSBC is expected to say that it is further shrinking HSBC Finance Corporation, its US-based credit card and mortgage lender ...

The WSJ has a headline only: HSBC plans to cease U.S. personal loans and mortgages but will continue to provide credit cards.

I'm sure HSBC regrets the Household International acquisition!

by Calculated Risk on 3/01/2009 02:32:00 PM

The NY Times asked several economists and forecasters 'When Will the Recession Be Over?'

Here are a few excerpts:

Beware the False Dawn
By STEPHEN S.ROACH (Chairman of Morgan Stanley Asia)

IT would be premature to declare an end to America’s recession at the first sign of a resumption of growth. After the unusually steep declines in the economy late last year and early this year, a statistical rebound in the second half of 2009 would hardly be shocking. ... But any such whiffs of growth are likely to herald a false dawn, because the consumer remains in terrible shape. ...

This points to an unusually anemic upturn, at best — not strong enough to keep the unemployment rate from rising to near 10 percent over the next year and a half. Since it’s hard to call that a recovery, it looks to me as if this recession won’t end until late 2010 or early 2011.

A Long Goodbye
By A. MICHAEL SPENCE (Stanford Professor, Nobel prize, economics)

THE short answer is not soon.

The recession is global: exports, production and consumption are in high-speed descent. The headwinds are powerful because of excessive leverage, damaged balance sheets and the resulting tight credit.
...
Governments and central banks are the only major sources of credit, liquidity and incremental demand ... If governments are quick and clear in their intentions and intervene in a coordinated way in both the real economy and the financial sector, we will probably have an unusually long and deep global recession through 2010. If they don’t, it is likely to be worse than that.

An Ordinary Crisis
By GEORGE COOPER

TODAY’S financial crisis is the biggest in recent history, when measured by its speed, the scale of its capital losses or its global reach. Yet viewed from another perspective the crisis is surprisingly ordinary, following the same path as dozens of previous bubbles.
...
If we go by the first measure [started in mid'80s] we may see two or more decades of readjustment. If we go by the second [started turn of the millennium], we are still probably in the early stages of the credit correction, meaning that while the technical recession could be over by the end of the year, the broader credit cycle will likely remain a significant drag on economic activity well into the next decade. Either way, we have a long way to go.

There are number of other short Op-Eds from Nouriel Roubini, James Grant and others.

by Calculated Risk on 3/01/2009 10:50:00 AM

First a repeat of Eric's great AIG cartoon! Click on cartoon for larger image in new window. Cartoon from Eric G. Lewis

From the WSJ: Rating Agencies Endorse Revised AIG Bailout

Major credit rating agencies have signed off on the latest revamp of American International Group Inc.'s $150 billion government rescue package ... Both Standard & Poor's and Moody's Investors Services have quietly endorsed the terms of the revised bailout ...

The agreement clears the way for the insurer's board to give its final approval when it meets on Sunday. AIG's latest restructuring ... is expected to be announced with the insurer's results on Monday.

... Many details of the new plan aren't clear but ... it will result in a complete reconfiguration of AIG. ... The revised plan relies on a series of complicated financial maneuvers that will reduce AIG's interest and debt burdens, while also deepening government involvement and taxpayer exposure.

One aspect of the plan is clear - taxpayers will be more exposed.

by Calculated Risk on 3/01/2009 02:08:00 AM

From Reuters: Exclusive: AIG near deal on new terms of bailout (ht Brad)

American International Group Inc is close to a deal with the U.S. government ... The revised AIG agreement is expected to include an additional equity commitment of about $30 billion, more lenient terms on an existing preferred investment, and a lower interest rate on a $60 billion government credit line ...

AIG will also give the U.S. Federal Reserve ownership interests in American Life Insurance (Alico), ... [and] American International Assurance Co (AIA) in return for reducing its debt ... The board ... is due to meet on Sunday to vote on the deal ...

It sounds like the deal will be announced on Monday.